coffee talk: betting the farm


What’s a cause, an idea, an anything that you’d risk everything for?

Talk amongst yourselves.


95 Responses to “coffee talk: betting the farm”
  1. I’m going to start what I imagine will we a long line of redundancy with a one word answer: Jesus

    (Please note: this is not a shameless attempt to get the 20k comment prize by randomly commenting.)

  2. gitz says:

    i’d lay down in front of a bus to protect anyone that i love. no questions asked.

    as for a specific “cause”… i really don’t know. i probably should, but i don’t. [i assume that my faith goes without saying]

  3. Roo says:

    I agree with gitz. People. Hands-down.
    And sometimes, that is a bad thing. I know this. But I do it anyway, because usually it is more than worth it.
    Causes? Like… well… hm. Things I would risk everything for are many. I am a planner… but if I feel a pull or a calling to do something, I have been known to toss all plans out the window in order to do what I feel is right, and what God is leading me toward. It hasn’t burned me yet… only blessings for those actions.

  4. Andrew Ronzino


  5. Andrew Ronzino

    I would have said Jesus/God…but it was taken, so I went with freedom.

  6. TheNorEaster says:

    I really want to be bold and brave and give the traditional textbook answer, but I’m afraid I’ve lived long enough to know I’ll never know until I know.

  7. My mind is cycling around the idea of bettin the farm. Since I grew up on a farm and my dad and I were just talking about how my grandma’s family is selling their farm, that is hitting a little close to home!

    What would I give up my heritage, my growing up years, my family’s base for?

    Well, I would have to say for the idea of family. Not necessarily for the reality of family. Because, well, honestly, family doesn’t always deserve it (sadly enough). But the for the sake of the idea of the family God wants us to be and to have, for that, I would bet the farm.

  8. Louise

    I’m with Nor. I have no idea what I’m capable of until I’m inspired.

  9. I’ll go with most of the answers above…. sometimes my mind wanders to the possibilities of what would happen if I’m ever placed in that position (I guess living over here plays mind-games with your head sometimes). I honestly can say that if I would give all I had for the chance to save anyone else. So, yeah…I say along with Roo….People. Any cause that I believe in have to do with people anyways, so they all overlap.

  10. helping somebody understand or experience love. not love from me…because that is self-seeking (even though i like it), but once i have seen or understood that the kids are fed, they are better able to accept and heal and receive the love offered and i will fight to the death for that opportunity. here or anywhere on this planet if i feel led.

  11. Melissa says:

    I’m stealing the motto: To know Christ, and to make Him known.

    I pray that God gives the strength and grace to do this.

  12. @ngie

    Q: What’s a cause, an idea, an anything that you’d risk everything for?

    A: I have trouble calling God a cause, or an idea or a thing. I also would not place any person in those groups either. I would like to say that there is something noble enough to risk it all for (i.e. missions, marriage, Christianity, family, etc.) but frankly I just do not know. I have never had to risk it all.

    I would ask you, Alece, the same thing: What’s a cause, an idea, an anything that you’d risk everything for?

  13. Michael says:

    I would call this “anything” rather I would call this “everything”… but here is my answer. In my heart I want to say Jesus. I want to be bold and brave and give that answer, but I’m afraid that if I was faced with that answer I would hesitate. I guess in my heart I hope that I have been branded…. but in my head I hesitate… maybe that is why I followed my heart these days.

  14. jon mark says:

    “anything” that God calls me to do…i’ve experienced His true joy and abundant life through being obedient to some awesome things that He has called me to do…so far i haven’t had to “risk everything”…

  15. Heidi

    Wow. what A HARD question.

    I am like Angie, Jesus is not a cause and neither are the people I love.
    hands down I would jump of a cliff for them.

    But what would risk for: (although harder)

    Simply to be me. (I haven’t done that for a while)
    I want to be able to mingle in a crowd and know that I am absolutely alright the way I am.

  16. first things first: my husband. i would do anything for this man. he is truly a treasure.

    secondly, on a slightly silly note (and yet i am very serious about this), i’d bet anything, ANYTHING, that i could teach anyone to sing. anyone. they may not come out sounding like pavarotti, but if you’re looking to help someone actually sing on pitch and maybe even with a little bit of good breathing and tone thrown in there, i can do it. give me 6 weeks of singing boot camp, and i could do it.

    hmm…now for one with more…umph…i’d risk anything to see the Spirit move in my youth group, in my whole church, in my unsaved family. which leaves me thinking…if i would risk anything for that, then why haven’t i started?

  17. Debra says:

    Anything that God is calling me too! No better place than to be on adventure with Him … His adventure. Now that is joy!

  18. Michelle says:

    My children. I’ve found I’ll do anything for my children.

    I’m really hoping it’s a parallel to God’s love for us.

    • Bran Muffin says:

      THIS. even to the point of NOT giving my life for someone else b/c it would mean abandoning my babies. There is no way I could put my life or anyone else’s life ahead of theirs….while they are still in my care. This will change when they are fully grown and have lives of their own, but I could never reconcile to putting anyone else ahead of them while they still need me to raise them. Make sense?

      HOWEVER, I say that now sitting here thinking rationally and thinking ahead. But like Nor said, you won’t know until it happens. Just a few weeks ago I ran into the street and scooped up my neighbors little girl who ran out in front of a car. Was I thinking about getting hit by that car? No. It just all depends on the situation I guess. And like Michelle said, you’ll do anything for your children. You may not think you will, but you WILL.

      As for a cause….. at the moment I don’t have any other cause than being a mom to my boys. That consumes me. So I guess I could say the same as Joy Renee’….. what more could I risk, or give, to the cause of raising up Godly men? Oh how much more I SHOULD be giving to that cause……

      • alece says:

        being a mom to your boys is the greatest cause you could ever give your life for, friend. and being able to answer that question you asked at the end … powerful stuff.

        • Bran Muffin says:

          ya know, when I think of all the times I say “not now” or “wait a minute” or “later” or really ANY time I put them off or pass on something I don’t want to address at the time out of sheer laziness or selfishness….. those are all things I should be giving up for them. Anytime I put myself before them….which I will say is often, epspecially if you consider my computer time. *blush* ;o) It’s hard stuff, being a mom. You never get it absolutely right.

          • Michelle says:

            It’s hard stuff, being a mom. You never get it absolutely right.

            Amen! We can give and give and give, Brandy, and we should, but it will never be enough. But if we can lead them to God, to the One who IS enough, then will we have done the very best for them.

            I think.

  19. Jessica says:

    my hubby and daughter.

  20. Debra says:

    Hey Alece, just emailed you! As always, an awesome dialogue in this sweet community. Love you!

  21. Jace Sauble says:

    i’ve always said to people that my heart for Africa is on my sleeve aka that’s why I got it in a tatoo on my arm. I definitely think I am the type of person that would push the child out of the way when they are about to get hit by a truck. I am person that is all about people because God is all about people.

    I’ve definitely risked everything to go back to Africa but it’s been the best thing that’s ever happened to me. God’s so goooooooood, mmmhmmm dude..:)

    i love you.

  22. Roo says:

    and… the coffee talk logo looks like… christmas coffe. :-)

  23. @ngie

    I am sitting in the airport waiting for DaRonn’s plane to get in. They have WiFi here. So I am tapping out my comment on my iTouch. It sounds like the old telegraph machines on movies.

    • alece says:

      yay for wifi and iPod touch!

      • @ngie

        I have a friend who said in a texting conversation with his wife that that texting is a digression to an earlier form of communication called the Morse code. His next message to her was as follows:

        – – . – . -.–. –. – .- -. . . – – — . – . –

        (Or something to that effect. I thought that was hilarious!)

  24. @ngie

    Could really use some coffee right about now. I am cold, hungry, tired and would really like to see my husband. The is a coffee shop just 50 paces from where I am sitting. But that is just it. I have my tooshie in one of the few chairs. Said tooshie is warm, though the rest of my body is shivering. It’s because the only open chair was by the open door which is letting in all the brisk night drafts. Maybe a little 50 pace jaunt would do me good. Plus, then I could wrap my fingers around the coffee mug. The debate rages on… Coffee or no coffee?

  25. @ngie

    There is a girl with oo baby short and amble cleavage shivering as well. She just ran to the bathroom. I bet she is warming herself under the hand dryer. Now I want to go in the water closet to see if my theory is right. Then again there is the whole prime reality spot for my rear that I am not ready to part with.

  26. @ngie

    Wow. Those last two comments make me sound like a persnickety lazy bum… on her bum. Ha! I slay me.

  27. @ngie

    Now oo baby cleavage girl is snuggling with boyfriend as they ride up the escalator. Maybe she is seeking higher ground because heat rises.

  28. @ngie

    Here is a good coffee talk (chai chat – love that!) topic: to what extent are you willing to sacrifice comfort for image?

    Personally I will look like a complete doofus just to stay warm at the great chargrin (sp?) of every fashion consultant that walks the face of God’s green earth.

  29. @ngie

    So as I was finishing up with that comment a real live person struck up a conversation with me. Then the masses converged because the flight came in. Then DaRonn was here! It is good to have him home. The kids are happy too. He brought us all t-shirts from Ecuador. Classic, right? They are really cute ones. Mine is even a v-neck. Cool.

  30. @ngie

    Anyone else a vintage Willy Wonka movie fan? Sure, there are those freaky moments but in all I like it. It is a musical after all.

    I found a funky little site with quotes from the movie and their origins. I thought there might be some other people interested. So I am going to share. Ok.

  31. @ngie

    [In the doorway-filled hallway that becomes increasingly smaller]
    WONKA: Oh, you should never, never doubt what nobody is sure about.

    The Microbe
    by Hilaire Belloc [1870-1953]

    The Microbe is so very small
    You cannot make him out at all,
    But many sanguine people hope
    To see him through a microscope.
    His jointed tongue that lies beneath
    A hundred curious rows of teeth;
    His seven tufted tails with lots
    Of lovely pink and purple spots,
    On each of which a pattern stands,
    Composed of forty separate bands;
    His eyebrows of a tender green;
    All these have never yet been seen–
    But Scientists, who ought to know,
    Assure us that they must be so…
    Oh! let us never, never doubt
    What nobody is sure about!

  32. @ngie

    [At the chocolate river, watching Augustus Gloop trapped in the pipe]
    WONKA: The suspense is terrible. I hope it’ll last.

    from The Importance of Being Earnest, Act III
    by Oscar Wilde [1854-1900]

    The suspense is terrible. I hope it will last.

  33. @ngie

    [Continuing, to Mrs. Gloop as she is led off by Oompah Loompahs]
    WONKA: Across the desert lies the promised land.

    Source: probably popular, but compare:

    The Dance of Life, Chapter 3
    by Havelock Ellis [1859-1939]

    The Promised Land always lies on the other side of a wilderness

  34. @ngie

    [Mixing a concoction in the Invention Room]
    WONKA: Invention, my dear friends, is ninety-three percent perspiration, six percent electricity, four percent evaporation, and two percent butterscotch ripple.

    Thomas Edison [1847-1931]
    Genius is one percent inspiration, and ninety-nine percent perspiration.

  35. @ngie

    [On a bicycle in the Inventing Room]
    WONKA (singing):

    In springtime, the only pretty ring time
    Birds sing, hey ding
    A-ding, a-ding
    Sweet lovers love the spring–

    from As You Like It, Act V, Scene 3
    by William Shakespeare [1564-1616]

    It was a lover and his lass,
    With a hey, and a ho, and a hey nonino,
    That o’er the green cornfield did pass,
    In the springtime, the only pretty ring time,
    When birds do sing, hey ding a ding, ding;
    Sweet lovers love the spring.

    [Here Shakespeare is quoting the popular Celtic ballad, "It was a lover and his lass"]

  36. @ngie

    [In the inventing room, to Mr. Salt]
    WONKA: Candy is dandy, but liquor is quicker.

    Reflections on Ice-Breaking
    by Ogden Nash [1902-1971]

    Is Dandy
    But liquor
    Is quicker.

  37. @ngie

    [In the hallway with lickable wallpaper]
    WONKA: We are the music-makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams.

    from Ode
    by Arthur O’Shaughnessy [1844-1881]

    We are the music-makers,
    And we are the dreamers of dreams,
    Wandering by lone sea-breakers,
    And sitting by desolate streams.
    World-losers and world-forsakers,
    Upon whom the pale moon gleams;
    Yet we are the movers and shakers,
    Of the world forever, it seems.

  38. @ngie

    [Explaining the Eggdicator]
    WONKA: A little nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men.

    Bartlett’s Quotations lists this as Anonymous, but suggests a possible source in:

    Letter to Sir Horace Mann, 1774
    by Horace Walpole [1717-1797]

    A careless song, with a little nonsense in it now and then,
    does not misbecome a monarch.

    Also compare:

    Carmina (IV, 12, 27)
    by Horace (Quintus Horatius Flaccus) [65-8 B.C.]

    Misce stultitiam consiliis brevem: Dulce est desipere in loco.
    (Translation: Mingle a little folly with your wisdom; a little nonsense now and then is pleasant.)

    This would suggest that Horace Walpole was alluding to the Classical Horace in his letter to Horace Mann.
    (What are the odds of that happening?)

  39. @ngie

    [Introducing the Wonkamobile]
    WONKA: A thing of beauty is a joy forever.

    from Endymion, Book 1
    by John Keats [1795-1821]

    A thing of beauty is a joy for ever:
    Its loveliness increases; it will never
    Pass into nothingness; but still will keep
    A bower quiet for us, and a sleep
    Full of sweet dreams, and health, and quiet breathing.

  40. @ngie

    [During the Wonkamobile ride]
    WONKA: Swifter than eagles…stronger than lions…

    from The Bible: 2 Samuel 1:23

    Saul and Jonathan were lovely and pleasant in their lives,
    and in their death they were not divided:
    they were swifter than eagles, they were stronger than lions

  41. @ngie

    [In the Wonkavision room, advising Mike Teavee]
    WONKA: You should open your mouth a little wider when you speak.

    from Through the Looking-Glass, And What Alice Found There
    by Lewis Carroll [1832-1898]

    Chapter II: The Garden of Live Flowers
    [The Red Queen, advising Alice:]
    “It’s time for you to answer now,” the Queen said, looking at her watch:
    “open your mouth a little wider when you speak, and always say ‘your Majesty.'”

    [My thanks to Nina Choudhary for hitting on this.]

  42. @ngie

    [To Mrs. Teavee as she is dragged away by Oompah Loompahs]
    WONKA: Parting is such sweet sorrow

    from Romeo and Juliet, Act II, Scene 2
    by William Shakespeare [1564-1616]

    Good Night, Good night!
    Parting is such sweet sorrow,
    that I shall say good night till it be morrow.

  43. @ngie

    [To himself, holding the Everlasting Gobstopper that Charlie has left on his desk]
    WONKA: So shines a good deed in a weary world.

    from The Merchant of Venice, Act V, Scene 1
    by William Shakespeare [1564-1616]

    That light we see is burning in my hall.
    How far that little candle throws his beams!
    So shines a good deed in a naughty world.

  44. @ngie

    Evidently David Seltzer was a well read man. When Quaker Oat company decided to adapt Roald Dahl’s Charlie and the Chocolate Factory for film they asked the Roald Dahl to write the transcript. They were unsatisfied by the results and asked David Seltzer to spruce it up. Fascinating.

  45. @ngie

    Shall we pull a moral from this cultural revelry? Indeed we shall.

  46. @ngie

    Creativity is a corporate concoction.

  47. @ngie

    The most glorious pieces of art rely on more than one person for their existence.

  48. @ngie

    Truly creative people pull from the beauty in the individuals that surround them.

  49. @ngie

    Even God was not alone when He created the world. The bible specifically notes in Genesis that the Spirit was hovering over the face of the deep. God is the One who spoke. Later in the New Testament, in the book of Colossians, we find that all things were created by the Son and for the Son.

    It is the nature of the beast derived from the influence of the ultimate insurrection traitor to exult oneself over others as one deserving of credit. Before he was cast from heaven Lucifer was an artist, a musician. He thought that it would be good to be higher than God. In his pride he found his greatest fall. And he continues to drag people down with him.

  50. @ngie

    That is why this blog is so wonderful. Alece. You have a natural ability to involve others in what you do and who you are. That is a design after the Father’s heart. He created corporately so that we could live in community. His beauty shines in you, even on your blog. That is marvelous!

  51. @ngie

    A couple dozen comments on a Saturday morning should suffice.

    20K all the way, baby!

  52. Debra says:

    Okay, I am thinking that @ngie should win the prize for creativity alone … wow!

  53. @ngie

    Personally, I am not too partial to winning a consolation prize or winning because the rules were changed. Nope. If I win it will be because one of my comments was the 20,000th comment. Period, if you ask me about it.

    Though it does stroke ones pride to hear such nice compliments on ones comments. So, thank you.

    Now, if you don’t mind, I am going to close this comment and go get ready for church. Three comments on a Sunday morning should suffice.

    20K all the way, baby!


    Happy Sunday!

  54. annie says:


    Although I do see the wisdom of ‘you’ll never know until you know.’ (And Angie went all out there!) But … intellectually, spiritually … we do have to make that decision sometime in our lives, whether or not life and limb is at stake. We have to throw out the possibility of there being any Truth apart from what God says there is, regardless of how nice, or logical, or perfect it seems to be. To me … that is betting the farm. That is ‘do or die.’ The full weight of who I am as a person rests on that decision. I realize that most of what I stand on it’s visible to the natural intellect, and many times even to me. But I’m there. I’m not backing down. I have seen more worth in what I can’t see than what I do comprehend, and to me … that is worth it.

  55. just wanted to say hi to g & g. miss you, g &g!

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